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Jill Scott Speaks To CNN About Interracial Relationships [VIDEO] by Windowpane
Monday, March 29, 2010, 4:39 pm
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Massive fan of Jill Scotts and I hear what she’s saying here, I’m not about to call her a racist, but I can’t say I necessarily agree with some of the things she’s saying. But as Scott very rightly points out, it is very different here in London and so maybe that’s why. However, her reality may be something completely different. Either way, more power to her – I believe, as she says, these conversations need to take place.

FYI: This interview was a result of the comments Jill made to Essence Magazine, which you can read here.

Peace, Love & Jill Scott

Speeakz

Shouts to SC


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Did she wince when Obama was made President, seeing as he is the product of an interracial relationship? Jill’s just exposed her own insecurities and issues. I pity her.

Comment by Stef

I totally agree. As a black woman I am not insecure when seeing a black man with a white woman (probably it is because I am a lesbian). And I agree with you, if it was not for interracial relationships we would not have the President or a lot of people.

Comment by NyahM

I’m a young black woman. I don’t need to see random black male strangers with a partner who looks like me in order to feel validated, so I don’t wince when I see black men in interracial relationships. I’m married to a white man, but besides that fact, I don’t have black American women’s history and heritage since I’m a first-generation American. Any woman who feels the way Jill does needs to work through her insecurities. It’s her responsibility to herself. THIS is what Jill should be saying. Those men WON’T have a discussion with you to help you overcome your issues and accept their relationship because they don’t have an interest in doing so. Some may even enjoy your pain. You’re the one suffering, so you’re the one with an interest in alleviating your pain…so work on healing yourself and move on with your life. If you wait for someone to come do it for you, you’ll be suffering forever.

Comment by Velour

She keeps saying we when she should have been saying I. And no the history can’t be brushed away as she says, especially when people keep drudging up the past.

Comment by 1mileka

Co-sign Stef.

Comment by Roy

*sigh*

its funny how many of us in the ‘free as a bird’ West think we live in a post-racial society yet whenever topics such as these are bought up , talked about or expounded upon they’re more or less shouted down with comments such as ‘well Obama…’ or ‘well… a lot of people wouldn’t’

if I facepalmed any harder I would probably be blind

a historical basis for a point of any type is always MORE than necessary because as we all know…events, just like children or people, are not created in a vaccuum (bad spelling…its late lol). there is a chain which has affected its arrival

I’m sure we all know this too but…well maybe we don’t lol but the present is not available without the past. the future is not available without the past and the present meaning therefore and obviously time is not a series of abstract events. the past has as much relevance as any other point in time. its the reason why you dress, talk, work and look at yourself the way you…choose to or whatever

what Jill is talking quite honestly and bravely (funny how you have to be brave to talk about something that is supposedly past tense huh?) upon is a point of view personal first and foremost but simply true. to deny otherwise is to deny self buuuuut…many of us are quite good at that anyway

this is why I love this woman. its just a shame collectively Global African people are in such a spectacular and sadly hilarious state of collapse, quick to attack, slow to think, always avoiding painful self-analysis and questions…

I guess Frantz Fanon was right

me dun and gone

The Almighty’s Blessings

p.s I have to say the original comments added to the video by the writer(s) of Pinboard are slightly inflammatory at best and really…London is not something to be proud of particulary for those people who consider themselves members of the Global African community or more insultingly…Black lol

I’m not trying to assume that the writers of this blog are from said community. that would be quite presumptuous of me

Comment by Nii-Teiko

Thank you for your thoughts. I really love hearing all your view points.

Not sure what was inflammatory about my comments, I simply stated that I do not necessarily agree with what she says, but am glad she’s having the conversation, as it’s always about that…The conversation. And as I said, this may be her reality, in which I am not to judge and indeed, it may be your reality too. It’s not mine, therefore I cannot pretend it is, nor will I. Either way, I respect you and your opinions and your ability to express your truth.

I too love Jill, both as an artist and as a person – because she is ‘brave’ enough to have these conversations. However, that does not mean I must agree with what it is she is saying. All I can do is listen, try to understand and express my views.

Thank you again,

Comment by Speeakz

i read the article. i get where she’s coming from (and i’m neither black, nor a woman). i don’t believe she’s a racist. people who say that are missing the point (it’s about mental conditioning through the eras, and i’m sure Jill Scott is qualified enough with all her years of life experience perhaps being in and amongst the thick of it to speak for many African-American women if she felt compelled enough to tackle the issue in the first place). nonetheless, i am a liberal, and i do believe the whole world should just f**k and let their pro-creations spill over all existing racial borderlines. that’s the only way forward.

Comment by Fantastic**t

I adore Jill Scott and therefore I will always listen to anything she has to say, especially as she has so much wisdom beyond her years.

I know why there are issue with race in the USA, especially with the history in the country. But I just don’t get why there has to be an issue with a black person dating or marrying a white person. Surely love doesn’t care who you fall in love with, it’s something that just happens and it doesn’t stop to think about race issues first. Love doesn’t work like that. We as humans should be beyond this race issue, afterall, we are all humans and underneath the different couloured skin, features, etc – we are all the same. We bleed the same colour blood, we are part of the same species. There shouldn’t be an issue, but you know that it’s something that will never go away.

I do not for one minute think that Jill is racist, that’s one thing that’s always mentioned whenever someone tackles the subject of race and it’s wrong. You should be able to speak freely on a variety of subjects, but it’s such a raw issue in the USA, I think that’s the issue, that people just DO NOT want to talk about it.

Comment by w00sh

She says ‘we should have heated debates’ – about what? Whether a black man should be allowed to date a white woman? That a black man should feel obliged to date only within his race because of slavery?

The presenter says ‘you didn’t have to take on this subject, why did you?’ – clearly because the woman has issues with black men dating white women. That’s the issue. And she’s not speaking on behalf of all of black women, as the comments underneath the original article demonstrate.
As a mixed race female, she’s really gone down in my estimations.

Comment by Stef

Yea alot of black women hate to see black men with other women.It is like they are saying these women are pretty but your not so i understand what she is saying.

Comment by ???

O.K, get a drink this’ll be a long one….

I think when Jill raises the point that these conversations that need to be had, it’s only best understood in the context of particular communities. Sometimes discourse can only be validated by those who are directly affected, hence why people feel so compelled to dismiss her points as ludicrous or archaic.

This isn’t about racism and the minute people throw the dreaded ‘r’ word into the mix, focus is lost and everyone feels dutifully bound to refuting the claims of the said racist. Maybe it’s because we’re often disillusioned into thinking we’re in a post-racial world where race doesn’t matter. Of course race matters. Just as culture, gender and economic status matter, however much the lines may be seemingly blurred.

Jill Scott isn’t saying that black men should not be with white women. Nor is she saying that different races shouldn’t fall in love. Her wincing isn’t simply because two races have mixed. There are long standing socio-historical implications.

The point is, a number of qualitative studies, not to mention explorations in films such as Jungle Fever (which I use only as a cultural reference) have explored the reality that there are a growing number of black men who do not ever date black women.

The magnitude of these men also seems to be directly proportionate to success levels (in terms of financial status). There is something there that needs to be addressed that goes beyond the subjective personal choice of one man and one woman, we don’t live in a vacuum.

When there is a sweeping correlation of this sort, of course a conversation needs to be had. Now if we look at African American history and centre this debate around the legacy of slavery and questions of white superiority and the historical subjugation of the black woman it’s more than feasible to pose questions as to why for a growing number of black men, the black woman is an undesirable option.

It’s a fact no other group dates outside of their race as much as black males do. None. It’s fair enough to discuss that, just as we would discuss any sweeping social or cultural movement. This isn’t about Jill-or even me as I state this- being insecure, jealous or racist. Only the ignorant would avoid looking into the post colonial implications of ideals surrounding sexual relationships. Love knows no color, but what if this isn’t about love, but about ideology and the regurgitation of the same ideology over and over again.

Comment by Felicia

Dear Felicia,

AMEN!!

Comment by Noggy

When will black women stop being crybabies and respect themselves. No man wants that, bad enough you women have a terrible grade of hair!

Comment by Al Safouk

I mean some of that sweet black coochie in my lfe!

Comment by Al Safouk

Al Safouk are you serious or did you think that was funny. God made black women and their hair. Also black men have the same hair. Would it be appropriate if i said white people have terrible skin color? Lets not get into the dangers of tanning. Comments like yours is what make people think that people have the impression that white women are better, and are pursued for that reason. People who say that this conversation is not appropriate in this day and age forget that people like Al Safouk exist and their are ALOT of them. What she is speaking about is the negative affects on the black males psychology that is influence by european attitudes, that specific damages is thinking WHITE IS BETTER. this doesnt apply to all black males, nor does it apply to all interracial relationships, but is does apply to significant amount of people: enough people that it needs to be addresseed. People remember black women raised these black men and we have first hand experienced with them from birth not just when they become successful. I would hate to think that someone would want to marry my son but speaks so disrespectfully about his family. Im glad that ignorant remark was made because it proved her point.

Comment by latasha

Latasha, I posted here earlier (third comment). Yes, Al Safouk’s comment does prove a point. The point it proves is that black men in interracial relationships aren’t interested in your pain. They’re either too busy enjoying their own lives to think much about you, or a few like Al Safouk get pleasure out of your pain. That’s the truth, even if it hurts you to admit it. There isn’t anything you can do to make a hateful person like Al Safouk care about your feelings. There aren’t any right words possible to make someone mature like that understand your reason. The more you and Jill talk about how much their indifference or hatefulness bothers you, the more males like Al Safouk will get pleasure out of your suffering. You can’t change him and make him a better person; you can only change yourself. Simply stop reacting to it. Al Safouk and males like him will no longer have the power to make you feel undesirable when you no longer depend on them to feel desirable. They only have as much power over you as YOU give them. If someone says you’re undesirable, your power is to simply know you’re beautiful. If you have any doubt, travel the world and see just how many men around the globe appreciate the wondrous beauty of a black woman. Trust me, there are so many out there…Europe, Latin America… Whatever it is you need to do to move on with your life and be happy, I think you should do it. Don’t waste your time on things and people who don’t matter.

Comment by Velour

Velour thank for your wise words. Yet, I was not talking about by personal pain or situation but speaking of a trend among some black males in general. Alot of people think that this type of conversation is outdated and is annoyed by the fact that she would have the nerve to bring it up. I think that is being conveniently naive and ignoring the obvious. I know there is no hope for the stubbornly ignorant. I wasnt speaking so much to Al Safouk directly as much as was addressing the concept that we are beyond having to deal with people of his mindset. The truth is as a society we are not beyond it. Furthermore thinking white is better is present around the world which accounts for the high number women using bleaching creams to whitening their skin in numerous countries. Its not that complicated, there is a trend among some successful black men to think that they have to have a white woman to complement their BMW or mercedes. That is a fact. Now whether or any one wants to be enlightened regarding this issue is another story.

Comment by latasha

Pictures——Black men that date outside their race

http://www.afieldnegro.com

Comment by David

What I find most interesting is the constant need to assess someone else’s private life. Fair enough if someone is ranting and raving that they despise black women etc. But I really feel, some things are just, none of peoples business.

There is something to be debated about the historical notion of dating the supposed superior white woman, however, I think it often crosses over the line and people begin to question someone else’s notion of what love is.

Does it make someone less black because they date outside their race?

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